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  1. Thread: OpenGL 3 Updates

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    Re: OpenGL 3 Updates

    ok Bof or beach volleyball
    http://img03.beijing2008.cn/20080809/Img214520718.jpg
    bugger it, its only once every four years
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    IIRC with ogl1.2->2.1 nvidia have always had capable drivers within the month, so based on their track record I'ld say we're very likely to see something not long after siggraph.

    I've read a bit...
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    >>That doesn't make sense to me.

    me neither

    u could use glintercept or something similar to find out what calls are being made, IIRC there was a document about quake3 that described the fast...
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    way to go, having siggraph during the olympics
    then again based on stereotypes it may not be so disastrous
  5. Thread: OpenGL 3 Updates

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    a bit of a divergence

    but whoever's writing the redbook needs to get their act together more so than in the past,
    i remember when ogl1.2 came out I was wanting to buy the updated redbook, but it...
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    bugger that logo, heres my suggestion for a new logo
    http://www.zedzeek.com/ogl.png

    I could also write a theme song if ppl desire, gotta create the image!!

    #1/ the reason for the lack of info...
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    >> fps deltas mean absolutely nothing without a reference point.

    true, I've seen this mentioned quite a bit.
    but also milliseconds ( or whatever time unit ) also mean nothing without a reference...
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    Hopefully the initial spec has been scrapped, as I didnt think it was that forward thinking.
    Perhaps they are going the more futureproof route like Ive suggested, if so then perhaps silence is...
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    but we cant do that, due to technology (contrast/brightness etc)
    but in this case, screens display at ~60hz vs the eyes (whatever it is) ~1000hz??

    true in an ideal world you would display the...
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    try this
    hold your hand out a meter in front of your face, now rapidly wave it,
    now seriously its motionblurred.
    perhaps technically the brain/eyes are seeing a still hand with each frame, but how...
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    true, though i meant going from 400x300->800x600 makes a larger difference to the viewer than 800x600->1600x1200, even though the ratio increase is the same.
    and once monitors hit 600DPI (long way...
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    true, though its one of the few things where extra computing power is needed, like i mentioned a few pages ago, since cpus hit ~2ghz the average person doesnt really care, web browsing, typing...
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    sure everything can be done on the CPU (including graphics) but at what speed,
    video encoding even the fastest quadcore takes about an hour to encode a video, a GPU would do that 10x quicker

    a...
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    Re: OpenGL 3 Updates

    ive just been out for a run + im well + truly, knackered
    u talking about the suck or blow variety?
    well off to bed, another exciting day awaits tommorrow (they all are when youre unemployed)
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    not 'just because it can be done' (though i admit there is prolly some programmer wankery in there) but because it can offer performance an order or 2 or even 3 greater in magnitude than is available...
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    if i stuck to this rule my post count would be around 50 (+ the forum would no doubt be richer for it)

    WRT performance - with nvidia (+ i assume AMD et al) this is similar to what they do already...
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    Has anyone got any links of what's now done with graphics hardware.

    Like before I think there was hardware devoted to the fixed function pipeline perhaps lighting,transformation etc as long as it...
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    some are arguing openGL should be for graphics right,ok fair enuf, but by graphics u in fact mean the subset 'z buffered shaded polygon rasterization'
    ie ignoring other graphics methods...
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    shaders/glsl is GL, theyre replacing most of the fixed function stuff with shaders

    perhaps youre right about ppl being more interested about the objectmodel, but a cleanup affects everyone even u,...
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    actually CUDA doesnt go far enuf, eg it doesnt support recursion, now its pretty obvious in a year or two this limitation will be removed. the line between cpus/gpus is becoming blurred + ultimately...
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    ogl has become more general purpose over the years + no doubt the trend will continue.
    look at OpenGL es 2.0 it's already gotten rid of lots of rendering stuff eg lighting/transformation etc because...
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    The theory is that GL3 "Long's Peak" won't have D3D10 features as part of the core API. So the advantage of GL3 is a "clean" API. Any console that supported GL2 would be capable of GL3 support,...
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    only 56 days away

    im of the same opinion as i was last year
    WRT the gaming field is opengl3.0 really necessary?
    its not really bringing that much new to the party that ogl hasnt already (es),...
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    its official pc gaming is dead,
    alex st john declares consoles are dead
    http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18685

    like i say, unless your focus is on a niche, ogl3.0/d3d10 are...
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    and they say graphics is a male dominated field.
    3 months to the unveiling
    cant say i care to much WRT games, ps3/xb360 are only about ogl2.0/d3d9 level, so in reality unless u foolishly limit...
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