First of all - this topic is NOT meant to be another discussion about upcoming features, DX10 vs GL3 comparison or Windows Vista discussion, so hold your horses, will ya?
This topic is meand to remind that someone, somewhere wishes to know something more on OpenGL 3.0 specification (implementations?) progress. Iām not expecting to know any exact release date or some new feature descriptions. I just whant to know where are we now.
We havenāt got a newsletter in ages, and itās pretty quiet. As I once said - I hope itās just a silence before the storm.
If anyone can provide us with some information, it would be aprreciated.
Once again, please do not fill this topic with speculations and off-topic discussions. Only information please (or some related questions perhaps).
I hope we get some information in january.
Iām tired of visiting opengl.org each day and finding nothing about OGL3.0.No newsletter no announcement nothing.Itās well a little disappointing but Iāll keep on waiting.
im wondering if the silence is cause theyre being held up by something (perhaps a version of the d3dx library)
whilst its great to release everything in one great big shebang (itll prolly be to much to digest at once), i believe its better PR to release a bit at a time, the lack of comunication is pretty weak as well
I think as we havenāt heard from them in a while, that Microsoft has dispatched ninjas to take them out before they can release a DirectX 10 crushing API.
No, Cass from nvidia was implying in mid-december that it wonāt be long now and is being actively worked on. Whilst not being anything official, itās still encouraging to me. Without that nugget Iād be very sceptical now.
Yes, I know. Still, a newsletter would be nice. We were supposed to get one every season and the whole thing suddenly and silently collapsed.
It would be good to know where are we standing now and where are we going to. Nothing detailed or specific is required. I guess something like that: āWeāre working on GLSLā, āWeāre working on driversā , āWeāre blackmailing Microsoft to support GL3 on XBox360ā would be enough.
Of course we do not wish to sound like Donkey asking āAre we there yet?ā every 5 minutes. I realize that asking wonāt make things go faster and we have to wait anyway. Iām not expecting any promises either.
Iām guessing they want to deliver stable drivers and announce the spec, documents, drivers all at the same time.
Donāt worry guys. This isnāt Feihrenheit.
I think you are being overly optimistic, V-man. I donāt believe we will get decent drivers until at least half a year after a spec release. IMHO, something went terribly wrong there and they are redesigning a large portion of the API.
Sure would be nice if this was the case. You would think that to make hard decisions in the production of a new API, that you would have to do some kind of performance testing with real prototype drivers.
At least the Linux drivers should be damn easy.
If you think about it, at least for NVidiaās drivers, the hardware interface is probably 100% or 99% the same as the GL2 stuff that is already functioning right now (GL2 SM4.0 is only missing a few DX10 features). Everything will probably just be a higher level API change in some GL3 interface library. So perhaps a working GL3 could be done fast once the spec is finished.
In any case Iām not holding my breath.
About the only thing that excites me about GL3 is that vendors (again other than NVidia) might actually have working GL drivers which allow you access to features in the hardware which have already been shipping for some time now.
Maybe they silently dropped OpenGL 3.0 and fear to tell usā¦
I thought they rather dropped something on their data storage (you know, the one with all specs on it) and fear to tell usā¦
Shall we make jokes now to keep this thread alive, so eventually someone from ARB will respond to it?
This is exactly what I didnāt want - it was supposed to be a short topic - a few simple questions and a few simple answers. I guess, since we have no answers, frustration brings out the worst in us. Or maybe it got the best of us.
Come on ARB, give us some feedback - this is getting beyond the joke.
If we donāt get an answer this time, weāll start another topic in 2-3 months. āBeyond the jokeā seems suitable name for it.