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    Re: OpenGL 3 Updates

    have we been reduced to this? arguing and bickering amongst ourselves?
    THIS IS WHAT THE KHRONOS GROUP HAS DONE TO US!
    Damn their eyes.

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    Soth: Get off the board, people who post such things don't belong here. When knackered posts such a comment that isn't ok, but after over 2700 posts and many years in this community, it is a different thing than for a newbie like you. If you only have offending things to say, just don't post anything at all.

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    Re: OpenGL 3 Updates

    Where are the mods anyway?

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    I think, the mods are under NDA, too, and cannot react to statements done in the forums...

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    Re: OpenGL 3 Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by zed
    and they say graphics is a male dominated field.
    3 months to the unveiling
    cant say i care to much WRT games, ps3/xb360 are only about ogl2.0/d3d9 level, so in reality unless u foolishly limit yourself to pc only, ogl3.0 is unneeded for a few years

    btw dont discount the mac, true for years it+linux have been a niche market with 2-4% share each, but its really taken off in the last couple of years,
    i predict within 5 years, WRT ppl accessing the internet through windows will be in the minority ie <50%
    IMO, GL 3.0 has been needed for a long time. I don't know what the final GL 3.0 will be but what is needed is cleaned up API that is up to date and VERY simple to make drivers for. Let me explain:

    If you download some of the early driver version for your ATI or nVidia, you'll see that there is no GL_ARB_texture_float and no GL_EXT_framebuffer_object and some other extensions.

    Compare GL 2.0 with D3D9c, those same features are core in D3D and work very well.
    I believe that until now, on ATI you can't make a FBO that has a stencil buffer. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    D3D10 is a cleanup up API with all it's new features. Those same features are not core in GL 2.1
    They are not offered on ATI at all.

    Well, it may be that some ARB players have not been cooperative but bottom line is GL is behind D3D since a few years now.
    I don't think the gaming industry will switch APIs. The next gen game for Christmas will likely have DX9 and DX10 backend.
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    Re: OpenGL 3 Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan
    Soth: Get off the board, people who post such things don't belong here. When knackered posts such a comment that isn't ok, but after over 2700 posts and many years in this community, it is a different thing than for a newbie like you. If you only have offending things to say, just don't post anything at all.

    Jan.
    Since when cocks and pussies became offending things?? BTW i think that you are more offensive than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V-man
    I don't know what the final GL 3.0 will be but what is needed is cleaned up API that is up to date and VERY simple to make drivers for.
    Hear hear.

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    Re: OpenGL 3 Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by elFarto
    Just hang on there a few more months guys.
    That's been the story of OpenGL; "wait a little longer! good things are coming we promise!"

    Last time they said something like that we got GL2.0; an API striped of all the good ideas and was nothing more than GL1.6.

    And the problem is after a while people get sick of waiting and wander off else where to see what else they can do...

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    Re: OpenGL 3 Updates

    its official pc gaming is dead,
    alex st john declares consoles are dead
    http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=18685

    like i say, unless your focus is on a niche, ogl3.0/d3d10 are irrelevant (at least until 2010+)

    WRT pussies
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKehkKqRlpc
    this show prophesied the advent of the paris hiltons etc of the world

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    Re: OpenGL 3 Updates

    Behave, boys.

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