Any ideas when Nvisia will release their OpenGL drivers that include GLSL ?

[fuxiulian]

I am waiting for over a month now... I am not in the mood to learn any sort of assembler like language, since I have done that with intel asm and now I don't use that anymore. I am not fond of using cg either since it doesn't work well on anything but Nvidia. I want a clean start with GLSL but it seems Nvidia is not very devoted to support this new ARB extension...

Any ideas how long it will take for them to release their new drivers with GLSL support ?

[Zengar]

I also don't like it but I find it very wise of nvidia to delay glSlang support. Maybe we'll have it in NV40 launch driver.

[PanzerSchreck]

Originally posted by Zengar:
I also don't like it but I find it very wise of nvidia to delay glSlang support. Maybe we'll have it in NV40 launch driver.

What's so wise about that? The only field where NV nowadays was in front of ATI was their developer support, and now they're even falling behind ATI in that. So after designing not so top-notch HW, loosing one exclusive partner after another (Abit was the latest one) and cheating on customers, now they're even struggling in regards of developer support.

The way ATI did with their beta glSlang-Support is the best way a hardware vendor could go (NV did this with nv30emulate for example), so I totally can't unterstand why it takes NV so long to implement that into their oh so great drivers.
Sure, there are glslang-features you can't use on current ATI-HW, but at least you can get into glSlang.

I won't say that NV will go the same way as 3DFX, cause they not only rely on gfx-hardware. But they aren't making a good figure right now.

P.S. : Sorry for my OT-Rant, but I really don't unterstand what NV is trying to do...selfdestruction is surely not the way to success.

P.P.S. : I somewhere read that NVidia intended to release drivers with glSlang-support by the end of the year. But as you may have noticed, it just didn't happen

[This message has been edited by PanzerSchreck (edited 01-10-2004).]

[eirikhm]

and they keep waiting...

[Korval]

The way ATI did with their beta glSlang-Support is the best way a hardware vendor could go (NV did this with nv30emulate for example), so I totally can't unterstand why it takes NV so long to implement that into their oh so great drivers.
Sure, there are glslang-features you can't use on current ATI-HW, but at least you can get into glSlang.

Well, there's something to be said for being able to trust your glslang compiler. I would prefer waiting a few weeks or months for a hard version of glslang that is a mostly bug-free compiler, than having to deal with one that is moderately buggy.

Granted, ATi's glslang support, not including features that require emulation, is pretty decent.

[This message has been edited by Korval (edited 01-20-2004).]

[mw]

Giving the fact that many errors will be detected by users trying to do some unconventional stuff, I think that it's better to release a beta version of an extension - but tell ppl that the implementation is faulty.
If I know that GLslang support isn't finished, I'll not use it in a commercial application - but at least I can play with it.

[imr1984]

I could be wrong, but Mesa 6 has support for OpenGL 1.5, so this means glSlang is available to everyone.

[PanzerSchreck]

Originally posted by imr1984:
I could be wrong, but Mesa 6 has support for OpenGL 1.5, so this means glSlang is available to everyone.

That's wrong. glSlang is not an OpenGL 1.5 feature, so it's not included with Mesa 6.

[imr1984]

I stand corrected. glSlang is part of GL2 then?

[Corrail]

Yes, GLslang is a core part of GL2 but yet avaiable through extensions.