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bbbear
07-02-2004, 06:39 AM
I want to render pictures with resolution bigger than the screen resolution and save the pictures to bmp file. I tried to use window width and height bigger than the current visible window, render the scene in the default draw buffer, read the buffer, and save to file. But when I looked at the bmp file, it had only the lower left corner of the picture and other area were all gray. The lower left part seemed correctly rendered (color, scale, etc.) and the size of that part was exactly same as the visible window size when I did the rendering and saving.

Is that because the frame buffer is of the same size as the visible window? How can I use a frame buffer that is larger? Does windows support aux buffers? How do I specify the buffer size?

Hope to get help. Thanks,

Bear

ijk
07-02-2004, 08:05 AM
You want to render picture (Bitmap) and not window !?

Then replace PFD_DRAW_TO_WINDOW with PFD_DRAW_TO_BITMAP in your PIXELFORMATDESCRIPTOR.

If you look my Topic "RGBA Bitmap ?" I explain how I create Bitmap (DIB) to render.

Next to save, It's easy because you have a HBITMAP as well as a pointer.

However there are only RGB bits. Alpha bits are equal to zero ! I don't know why !

If anybody know ...

In another way, to get RGBA bits, is used glReadPixel.

bbbear
07-02-2004, 06:26 PM
Thanks for your reply. But I may not quite understood what you said.

What I want to do is to render the current scene in the current window again in higher resolution, say 2400x2400, and save the newly-rendered image to a bmp file. So I still need the "window". Is it possible to do what you said "change the pixel format" while the current window is still on? And how do I specify the resolution of the frame buffer? or do I need to?

ZbuffeR
07-03-2004, 01:44 AM
The problem with the PFD_DRAW_TO_BITMAP is that it forces to go with software MS GL renderer...

The accelerated way to go is to use pbuffers. It is an offscreen surface handled by the hardware. You can do readpixels etc just like the onscreen buffers.
See the doc at :
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/registry/ARB/wgl_pbuffer.txt

I have some code for just working implementation at my website (see my profile) if you dare to look :)

ijk
07-03-2004, 06:56 AM
Merci Dede (ZBufferR) !

The next time I will work with pbuffer.

Because you are a God, I have a question :

Technically when you do to render window (with PFD_DRAW_TO_WINDOW)
OpenGL does "glReadPixels" itself on the Device Context of window ?

With "pbuffer" you must do "glReadPixels" yourself to have/see a result ?

ZbuffeR
07-03-2004, 01:16 PM
I am not sure to understand your question ... :p
My guess :
You want to know if opengl graphics are drawn directly in the window or copied from another place ? Well I would say it depends, but with accelerated GL, it is all handled by the video card on hardware. That one of the reasons why readpixels is quite slow. "Pixels have to go back up the stream" as said somebody on this board.

For pbuffers, there are several ways to use the result (from slowest to fastest) :
- readpixels, then do whatever you want with it
- glCopyTex[Sub]Image to a texture
- use render to texture extension, so that the pbuffer is usable directly as a texture for another target like the framebuffer.

ijk
07-03-2004, 03:46 PM
... yes it was my question.

In fact, I would like read pixels of my result.
To do a statistic calculations. I would need RGBA bits.

Therefore if I want read pixels (one at a time) only "glReadPixels" can does it !?

Because with a texture :

"It doesn't make sense to get a direct pointer to a buffer, because how data (typically pixels) are stored in a buffer is implementation dependant" as said Ysaneya on this board.

James W. Walker
05-10-2005, 09:05 AM
Are those the only choices for rendering off the screen on Windows, either software rendering or pbuffers? The trouble with pbuffers is that this feature is not available on all video cards. On Mac OS, I understand that one can just move a window off the screen and render to it. There is no such trick on Windows?

ZbuffeR
05-10-2005, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by James W. Walker:
On Mac OS, I understand that one can just move a window off the screen and render to it.Such behavior is typically undefined, that is, no guarantee that non visible pixels will actually been drawn.

On most implementations (all the nvidias under windows I am aware of, from tnt2 to geforce6800), it will end up as black.

Modern version of pbuffers is FBO, example demo :
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50164
(currently needs beta nvidia drivers forceware 76.44 at least)