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Eric
05-28-2002, 12:04 AM
Sorry for posting this here as it is not exactly OpenGL related (but that's Cass' fault http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif).

I was just wondering if some of you were going to The Gathering 2 in Paddington on the 13th/14th of June (NVIDIA's official conference on the GF4).

Nutty, I just saw your message in an old thread asking me this question (I have been out of the office lately). The answer is "yes" I am going (I have just registered). Are you as well ?

It would be nice to meet some of you guys over there.

Once again, sorry for this OT post. I'll ask for it to be deleted if this is too much of a problem.

Regards.

Eric

kon
05-28-2002, 12:35 AM
Well, a great event, for sure and for 337 for the two days you'll also get a GeForce4 Ti! But, I thought this event is mainly for DirectX users. Can someone who visited it last year tell us how close to DirectX it is? Or, are the talks so general that they are sdk-independent? Will there also be some OpenGL specific talks?

kon

Eric
05-28-2002, 12:45 AM
I was at the first one and I must say that it was geared towards DirectX only.

That being said, there were great presentations on vertex programs and texture shaders (albeit with the DX8 names but who cares !). All in all, a lot of the techniques presented could be (and have been) used in OpenGL programs.

If the second edition is similar to the first one then it is interesting even for OpenGL programmers: I do not remember any of the speakers saying "DirectX is the only API". Granted, they like to say that NVIDIA products are the best but that seems normal to me !

When I asked them about an OpenGL Gathering, they said that they did not think it would be a real success.

Now, if you can afford the conference, you should really try to attend it, even if the sole word "DirectX" triggers a heart attack for you http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif.

Regards.

Eric

P.S.: as far as I understand, there will be a lot of talks about DX9. It's always interesting to see where MS is driving their API (>cough< ).

Cab
05-28-2002, 01:25 AM
I was there last year and I will be this year. It is a DirectX (D3D) event but it is allways good to know how is it evolving. There were also many techniques described that are independent of the API. I think this kind of events is more to relaxa and open you mind than to learn things.

Nutty
05-28-2002, 04:11 AM
Hi Eric. No I wont be there this year. I already have a gf4 anyway. Shame though, cos it was real good fun. Are they doing "Geforce Juice" again ? http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif

Nutty

Eric
05-28-2002, 04:26 AM
No idea about the Juice !!!

Sorry to hear you're not coming. I suppose it is not really worth it when you already have the card anyway...

BTW, I have just received an e-mail from Richard Huddy confirming my registration. I took the opportunity to ask him whether his favourite line was still "batch, batch, batch".

Here is his answer:

"No. I still quite like it, but now I enjoy rambling on about washing
machines and the number of buttons I have on my watch. It's odd that I
manage to find a way of including that in a DirectX graphics talk - but I
do."

I guess talks will really be interesting this year ! http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif

Regards.

Eric

cass
05-28-2002, 07:31 AM
Eric,

Actually, I'll be doing a couple of the talks at this event. The discussion will
be DirectX-centric, but there's plenty of new info that's relevant to both APIs. And we can talk about OpenGL details offline.

I would definitely encourage OpenGL programmers to attend as well.

It'll be nice to finally meet you in person, Eric. http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks -
Cass

cass
05-28-2002, 07:37 AM
Oh, and Nutty, I would regard the information you'll get from The Gathering 2 as much more valuable than the GeForce4 Ti.

PH
05-28-2002, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by cass:

Oh, and Nutty, I would regard the information you'll get from The Gathering 2 as much more valuable than the GeForce4 Ti.



Anything ground breaking ? Or are the presentations about the same things as GDC 2002 ?

Eric
05-28-2002, 08:03 AM
Cass,

I didn't know you were coming, that's fantastic news !!!

I'll be very happy to meet you in person at long last (I have just checked and the first e-mail I sent you was around september 2000 ! Yes I know, I am a very organized person http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif).

Well, Cab is coming as well. I suppose other people from these forums are going too. That will be really nice to meet each other !

I am sure the talks will be interesting even if DX9 is the main focus as far as APIs are concerned. In my opinion, the fee of the Gathering 2 is "paying for the card"+"get two days of interesting technical talks for free".

Well, that's what I call an exciting perspective !!!

As a side note, i hope the cute violonist will be there this year as well..........

Regards.

Eric

cass
05-28-2002, 09:08 AM
Paul,

This event will be almost completely new material, and an NDA is required to attend.

Thanks -
Cass

Nutty
05-28-2002, 09:15 AM
Hi Cass, shame I can't go to see you in action. *ahem*.

What I meant was, after shelling out for a GF4, I dont really have the spare funds to pay for the event. I'm not sure my company would pay, as it's not really relevant, being a console company and all.

Next year should be much more easy going on my wallet, so I'll defo go to the next one if there is one. Provided it's still in the south of UK http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif

Nutty

Cab
05-28-2002, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by cass:

Actually, I'll be doing a couple of the talks at this event. The discussion will
be DirectX-centric, but there's plenty of new info that's relevant to both APIs.

Cass,

will be you talking about Direct3D? Have you changed from the OpenGL to the D3D group? http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif

-- Carlos

cass
05-28-2002, 10:57 AM
Carlos,


will be you talking about Direct3D?
Yes, but most of what I'm talking about is pretty api-independent.


Have you changed from the OpenGL to the D3D group? http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif

I still do OpenGL work primarily, but it's pretty easy to "switch hit" these days, so we don't have separate devtech groups based on API.

Cass

Cab
05-28-2002, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by cass:

I still do OpenGL work primarily, but it's pretty easy to "switch hit" these days, so we don't have separate devtech groups based on API.


Cass,
It was a stupid joke http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/biggrin.gif It was a surprise because it is the first time I will see you in an European conference. I hope to see you at The Gathering.
Thanks.
-- Carlos

Tom Nuydens
05-29-2002, 08:18 AM
Count me in as well!

-- Tom

Eric
05-29-2002, 11:08 PM
This post will look like a "bump" for the topic and it is indeed... http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif

So, for the moment, 3 of us (plus Cass who's on the organizer's side):

Cab, Tom, myself.

Is anybody else going ?

We'll have to think of a way to find eachother at the registration (I'll send you my photo http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif !).

Regards.

Eric

Tom Nuydens
05-29-2002, 11:31 PM
Eric, I'm easy to spot: I'll be the one that's a foot taller than everyone else http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif

-- Tom

cass
05-29-2002, 11:54 PM
I'll have a name tag. http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif

Eric
05-30-2002, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by cass:
I'll have a name tag. http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif

I wasn't too worried about finding you: I have seen photos of your wedding (that's the beauty of personal web sites !) so I should recognize you http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif !

Moreover, I can't see myself going to every guy that has a tag to check it (didn't we all have tags last year ???) http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif

Do you know when your talk will take place ?

Regards.

Eric

knackered
05-30-2002, 01:45 AM
What type of geforce4 ti is it?
4200?
4400?
4600?

Also, will there be a free bar? http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif

kon
05-30-2002, 01:52 AM
And is there a list of the talks available?

Eric
05-30-2002, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by knackered:
What type of geforce4 ti is it?
4200?
4400?
4600?

Also, will there be a free bar? http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif

No idea about the card...

As Nutty mentioned, last year we were treated with GeForce Juice which, IIRC, was a strange greenish mixture (or was it blue ????). Anyway, that was real good (understand, quite strong http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif !).

Regards.

Eric

frost_add
05-30-2002, 04:50 AM
I just hope that any presentations from The Gathering 2 will be posted on NVIDIA developer site for those who can't attend (or on registered developer site if there is stuff that is really confidential - I haven't really looked deeply into The Gathering NDA but looks like standard NVIDIA one http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif so I think there shouldn't be a problem with that ).

cass
05-30-2002, 05:05 AM
This info won't be posted on any web site until it's been announced publicly.

frost_add
05-30-2002, 06:26 AM
Sorry to hear that, cass. It seems I am going to lose a lot http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/frown.gif

V-man
05-30-2002, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by knackered:
What type of geforce4 ti is it?
4200?
4400?
4600?

Also, will there be a free bar? http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif

Will there be women?

cass
05-31-2002, 07:12 AM
[ somehow I missed this question earlier, sorry ]

Eric,

Current agenda has me presenting at the end of the day on both days.

Cass

pocketmoon
06-06-2002, 11:35 PM
Forget the GeForce4Ti, it's the giveaway Jedi Cloak and Lightsabre I want http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif

I also hear that there's a private screening of Star Wars E2 for the attendees

Just don't be too tempted by the dark side http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif

Eric
06-10-2002, 11:58 PM
Final call for flight BA34............

So, is there anyone else from the board going to The Gathering 2 apart from:

Cab, Tom, myself (and Cass of course !).

I thought more people from here may go !

Regards.

Eric

P.S.: and that's official, we're out of the World Cup............. http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/frown.gif

PH
06-11-2002, 01:27 AM
I have a friend who's going ( I'll probably go next year ).

Eric, if France is out of the World Cup, that means... http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif ?

Eric
06-11-2002, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by PH:
Eric, if France is out of the World Cup, that means... http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/smile.gif ?

I didn't realize you were Danish ! Well done !!!! I must say I am really disappointed by what France did but they went wrong from the first match so Denmark's victory wasn't a total surprise...

Hope we'll do better at the Rugby World Cup next year (and there will be no Viking to bother us there http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif).

Regards.

Eric

P.S.: sorry if this thread has become 300% OT....

knackered
06-11-2002, 10:47 AM
En-ger-land!

MattS
06-12-2002, 02:04 AM
Not that I post here too often, but I do read it alot (great forum) but I am going also.

I went last year and found it to be really useful, my advice is not to let the API get in the way. By and large the rules that apply to DirectX apply to OpenGL.

Personally I'm really interested to see what Micro$oft did with the high level shading language, well that and the light sabre.

Matt

Eric
06-12-2002, 03:12 AM
OK, great !

Let's sum it up:

Cab, Matt, Tom and myself.

Well guys, I'm going to send you a nice (that's highly subjective http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubb/wink.gif) picture of me by e-mail so that you can recognize me (I am not sure whether we'll have badges or anything).

See you tomorrow !

Regards.

Eric